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	<title>Comments on: Three Thoughts on Woolfcamp</title>
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		<title>By: Em</title>
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		<dc:creator>Em</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2006 03:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heather- I walked in the door to WoolfCamp knowing only one person only a little, having met her briefly a week earlier after emailing my request to attend the event. The advantage of meeting for a blog camp is that you can learn about the other participants in advance by reading their BLOGS! The atmosphere at WoolfCamp was warm and welcoming, but also space-giving and low-pressure. The level of diversity and the fact that many or most of the attendees had never met before contributed to the breath of the discussion- we were able to actually talk about  the subjects of workshops we laid out, in a philosophical way and without getting overly hung up on personal anecdotes or, &quot;remember the time I wrote about ___?&quot; clique-ishness between mini societies of mutual devotion. I would STRONGLY RECOMMEND attending (or hosting!) this kind of meeting in your area; if you don&#039;t gather a large enough group for a &quot;camp,&quot; folks can always meet on a smaller scale for a couple hours of discussion over coffee or dinner. I think you&#039;ll find it very stimulating- last weekend was the best brain-workout I&#039;ve gotten since college!

p.s. Hi Bill! You were wonderful!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heather- I walked in the door to WoolfCamp knowing only one person only a little, having met her briefly a week earlier after emailing my request to attend the event. The advantage of meeting for a blog camp is that you can learn about the other participants in advance by reading their BLOGS! The atmosphere at WoolfCamp was warm and welcoming, but also space-giving and low-pressure. The level of diversity and the fact that many or most of the attendees had never met before contributed to the breath of the discussion- we were able to actually talk about  the subjects of workshops we laid out, in a philosophical way and without getting overly hung up on personal anecdotes or, &#8220;remember the time I wrote about ___?&#8221; clique-ishness between mini societies of mutual devotion. I would STRONGLY RECOMMEND attending (or hosting!) this kind of meeting in your area; if you don&#8217;t gather a large enough group for a &#8220;camp,&#8221; folks can always meet on a smaller scale for a couple hours of discussion over coffee or dinner. I think you&#8217;ll find it very stimulating- last weekend was the best brain-workout I&#8217;ve gotten since college!</p>
<p>p.s. Hi Bill! You were wonderful!</p>
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		<title>By: Kristie Wells</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristie Wells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 17:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually liked the fact that I walked in through the front door knowing only two people - the one I came with (Chris) and the amazing Grace D.  I had no idea what to expect, but I walked out with some lovely new friends who I hope to spend a lot more time with - connecting, sharing, debating, supporting.  This WoolfCamp crowd was diverse with regards to backgrounds and levels of techie sense - though mostly women with a heavy feminist feel. However, I do not think that is required to make a successful event.  Just get people together who are passionate about getting together, learning *stuff*, and taking the steps needed to make the world a better place.  Sounds simple.  And it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually liked the fact that I walked in through the front door knowing only two people &#8211; the one I came with (Chris) and the amazing Grace D.  I had no idea what to expect, but I walked out with some lovely new friends who I hope to spend a lot more time with &#8211; connecting, sharing, debating, supporting.  This WoolfCamp crowd was diverse with regards to backgrounds and levels of techie sense &#8211; though mostly women with a heavy feminist feel. However, I do not think that is required to make a successful event.  Just get people together who are passionate about getting together, learning *stuff*, and taking the steps needed to make the world a better place.  Sounds simple.  And it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Humphries</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Humphries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 02:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having some network in place, or at least a few sets of overlapping nodes helped, but this was the first time many of us met (IRL or online.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having some network in place, or at least a few sets of overlapping nodes helped, but this was the first time many of us met (IRL or online.)</p>
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		<title>By: heather w</title>
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		<dc:creator>heather w</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2006 23:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how important do you think it is that there was (or at least seems to have been, from my lurker&#039;s perspective) a good chunk of pre-existing network in place among the folks who came together at WoolfCamp?  I&#039;d like to think something like it could happen in Portland, but not knowing any (feminist) bloggers here makes the prospect of creating it seem rather daunting.  (I don&#039;t doubt they exist here; I just don&#039;t know them.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how important do you think it is that there was (or at least seems to have been, from my lurker&#8217;s perspective) a good chunk of pre-existing network in place among the folks who came together at WoolfCamp?  I&#8217;d like to think something like it could happen in Portland, but not knowing any (feminist) bloggers here makes the prospect of creating it seem rather daunting.  (I don&#8217;t doubt they exist here; I just don&#8217;t know them.)</p>
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		<title>By: Liz Henry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liz Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2006 17:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We totally should have done the quick index-card mashup for Woolfcamp!  Next time we&#039;ll come up with some quick useful exercises like that.  And I will tap Chris for ideas on that level - that one sounds so perfect.

About the evangelizing:   quickstart things are necessary, cookbook style. With some kind of intro that&#039;s short, that says, you have to be comfortable not understanding half of this; you have to experiment before understanding what will happen or what all the words mean, and that&#039;s okay to do.

so, like &quot;10 nifty command line recipes to play with&quot;  and it has to fit on one or two pages.

I love the Perl Cookbooks. 

Or like, 5 unix command line things to try.  and totally make wget one of them.   i learned how to mess with unix from a really bad book that just listed all the commands with very short-version man page entries. And so i&#039;d just type the command and read the man page, and poke around.   (thank you, temp job.)  Think how much easier it would have been with a cookbook!  Learning and gaining confidence by trying a simple thing that works, and then varying its parameters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We totally should have done the quick index-card mashup for Woolfcamp!  Next time we&#8217;ll come up with some quick useful exercises like that.  And I will tap Chris for ideas on that level &#8211; that one sounds so perfect.</p>
<p>About the evangelizing:   quickstart things are necessary, cookbook style. With some kind of intro that&#8217;s short, that says, you have to be comfortable not understanding half of this; you have to experiment before understanding what will happen or what all the words mean, and that&#8217;s okay to do.</p>
<p>so, like &#8220;10 nifty command line recipes to play with&#8221;  and it has to fit on one or two pages.</p>
<p>I love the Perl Cookbooks. </p>
<p>Or like, 5 unix command line things to try.  and totally make wget one of them.   i learned how to mess with unix from a really bad book that just listed all the commands with very short-version man page entries. And so i&#8217;d just type the command and read the man page, and poke around.   (thank you, temp job.)  Think how much easier it would have been with a cookbook!  Learning and gaining confidence by trying a simple thing that works, and then varying its parameters.</p>
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